DeathRun complaints/suggestions

Re: Remove tf2 condition blocks

Postby Armen » Mon Aug 08, 2016 12:15 am

Bear Force Fun wrote:Hi, I have noticed that on the deathrun servers a lot of the tf2 conditions are blocked. With all do respect this is STUPID. Many maps (mabye even half) have broken capabilities, minigames, easter eggs, or are completley broken for certain classes. I understand that conditions may have been taken away because they were being exploited or were op or whatever but, this is short cited and causes more damage than it stops. It is also a bad idea to interfear with map design and basic game abilities. Taking away conditions because some maps are exploitable is like taking all babys from thier mothers because some mothers are incapable (mabye less tragic). I think the better solution for this problem and problems like this is ACCEPT MORE ADMINS. I know a lot of capable people who spend a lot of time on the dr server and im sure they would be good as admins. Anyways thanks for reading I hope you will consider.

P.S Update dr_grizzly and dr_r60d!


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Re: DeathRun complaints/suggestions

Postby Bear Force Fun » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:15 pm

Hi, this is sort of a suggestion and sort of a question. I noticed DankMemes420 was banned for exploiting safety first. I just do not understand how getting stuck in the ground gives an unintended advantage. Like I said this is partly a question so correct me if i'm wrong ,but isn't that more of a glitch?
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Re: DeathRun complaints/suggestions

Postby Mr Pail » Tue Aug 16, 2016 7:38 pm

Bear Force Fun wrote:Hi, this is sort of a suggestion and sort of a question. I noticed DankMemes420 was banned for exploiting safety first. I just do not understand how getting stuck in the ground gives an unintended advantage. Like I said this is partly a question so correct me if i'm wrong ,but isn't that more of a glitch?


If it was unintentional that would work as a plausible excuse, but In danks efforts to purposely get under the elevator to get in that area is considered exploiting. (mind you the teleportation does not work when it that glitch and can give an unfair advantage to red)
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Re: DeathRun complaints/suggestions

Postby Dongle » Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:10 am

Mr Pail wrote:
Bear Force Fun wrote:Hi, this is sort of a suggestion and sort of a question. I noticed DankMemes420 was banned for exploiting safety first. I just do not understand how getting stuck in the ground gives an unintended advantage. Like I said this is partly a question so correct me if i'm wrong ,but isn't that more of a glitch?


If it was unintentional that would work as a plausible excuse, but In danks efforts to purposely get under the elevator to get in that area is considered exploiting. (mind you the teleportation does not work when it that glitch and can give an unfair advantage to red)

What Pail said. There are plenty of people who purposely get themselves stuck under the elevator and they don't get teleported which can delay the game if they're the last one alive. However the ban wouldn't be issued if it were on accident.
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Re: DeathRun complaints/suggestions

Postby bijuu » Sun Oct 16, 2016 10:44 pm

Quick suggestion: On dr_wintervalley scouts can jump over the first gap resulting in avoiding the first trap completely, which is considered exploiting. Simply adding an invisible wall or a kill wall for that matter, could easily solve the problem.

Obviously it's not a priority, but still an issue nevertheless.

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Re: DeathRun complaints/suggestions

Postby Dongle » Sun Oct 16, 2016 11:15 pm

bijuu wrote:Quick suggestion: On dr_wintervalley scouts can jump over the first gap resulting in avoiding the first trap completely, which is considered exploiting. Simply adding an invisible wall or a kill wall for that matter, could easily solve the problem.

Obviously it's not a priority, but still an issue nevertheless.

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Totally my idea and not AgentApple's :^)


This is an issue we've been dealing with for the last two years, but never has been done. Find someone to fix it and we'll update the map.
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Re: Remove tf2 condition blocks

Postby Mitch » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:12 pm

Bear Force Fun wrote:Hi, I have noticed that on the deathrun servers a lot of the tf2 conditions are blocked. With all do respect this is STUPID. Many maps (mabye even half) have broken capabilities, minigames, easter eggs, or are completley broken for certain classes. I understand that conditions may have been taken away because they were being exploited or were op or whatever but, this is short cited and causes more damage than it stops. It is also a bad idea to interfear with map design and basic game abilities. Taking away conditions because some maps are exploitable is like taking all babys from thier mothers because some mothers are incapable (mabye less tragic). I think the better solution for this problem and problems like this is ACCEPT MORE ADMINS. I know a lot of capable people who spend a lot of time on the dr server and im sure they would be good as admins. Anyways thanks for reading I hope you will consider.

P.S Update dr_grizzly and dr_r60d!

I didn't see this until now, but we currently whitelist conditions, due to a few of them being used by trolls.
If you know of a condition that should be unblocked then I can add it. The newest version of Deathrun I allowed the Karts condition which fixed a few map's minigames.
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Re: DeathRun complaints/suggestions

Postby bijuu » Tue Oct 18, 2016 6:37 pm

Dongle wrote:
bijuu wrote:Quick suggestion: On dr_wintervalley scouts can jump over the first gap resulting in avoiding the first trap completely, which is considered exploiting. Simply adding an invisible wall or a kill wall for that matter, could easily solve the problem.

Obviously it's not a priority, but still an issue nevertheless.

Spoiler: show
Totally my idea and not AgentApple's :^)


This is an issue we've been dealing with for the last two years, but never has been done. Find someone to fix it and we'll update the map.


I've been getting into Hammer recently, so I might actually do it myself. Still on the basics though so it might take a bit.
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Re: DeathRun complaints/suggestions

Postby Schtolteheim » Wed Oct 19, 2016 1:23 am

bijuu wrote:I've been getting into Hammer recently, so I might actually do it myself. Still on the basics though so it might take a bit.


I'll work on getting the .vmf for you. Actually getting the map file is the biggest hurdle in the process; if you try to extract a .vmf from the .bsp with something like vmex, you'll either have stuff missing or the file won't load in hammer at all. The best solution is to try to contact the map creator.
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