Mute/Gag appeal.
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Mute/Gag appeal.
Your Steam Community Link: http://steamcommunity.com/id/mrjuandiego007/
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:80383371
Which Admin Punished You: -[FF]- AC/DC Freak
Type of punishment(ban, mute, silence or gag): Gag and mute.
Server where you received the punishment: Freak Fortress #1 (IP: 74.91.119.154:27016)
How long they punished you for: Permanent
Reason why they punished you: "racist, extremely toxic, multiple offenses" (Source: http://disc-ff.site.nfoservers.com/sour ... vType=name)
Reason why you think this punishment is unfair/uncalled for/biased, etc.: Let me start with every reason provided by the admin in the next paragraph.
1. Racism: There wasn't racism, I just told to the player Kary: "Shut the fuck up snobist mexican".
That's not racist, she's mexican. As a latinoamerican, I know how some type of mexicans are, if that was wrong,
I'm sorry... I guess is up to cultural differences. Anyways, it wouldn't be racism because we're the same: latinos.
2. Extremly toxic: Okay, so I was telling to another player (VIP Player) to stop being annoying, then,
the conversation's level went up and we started cursing each other. That's it, discussion, but with curses.
I don't know if cursing is toxic, because I don't think so.
3. Multiple offenses: Okay, so I was discussing with this guy because he was annoying.
So, other players on the server started to tell to me to shut up, or just say shit to me, and I responded. I don't know
what's wrong with that, but if you see someone discussing with another one, in a leveled up discuss, you shouldn't
say anything because you would get insulted too, right? but anyways, I don't want to play smart, I'm just typing
what's the matter.
Reason why we should remove the punishment: I don't think it's fair because, like I said tacitly, I curse too much and maybe that's for cultural differences. I don't want it to be removed, because I know I probably went too far and lose my head, but instead, lowered. I promise I will watch my temperament and words.
Thank you, Mr.Cocaine.
Your Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:80383371
Which Admin Punished You: -[FF]- AC/DC Freak
Type of punishment(ban, mute, silence or gag): Gag and mute.
Server where you received the punishment: Freak Fortress #1 (IP: 74.91.119.154:27016)
How long they punished you for: Permanent
Reason why they punished you: "racist, extremely toxic, multiple offenses" (Source: http://disc-ff.site.nfoservers.com/sour ... vType=name)
Reason why you think this punishment is unfair/uncalled for/biased, etc.: Let me start with every reason provided by the admin in the next paragraph.
1. Racism: There wasn't racism, I just told to the player Kary: "Shut the fuck up snobist mexican".
That's not racist, she's mexican. As a latinoamerican, I know how some type of mexicans are, if that was wrong,
I'm sorry... I guess is up to cultural differences. Anyways, it wouldn't be racism because we're the same: latinos.
2. Extremly toxic: Okay, so I was telling to another player (VIP Player) to stop being annoying, then,
the conversation's level went up and we started cursing each other. That's it, discussion, but with curses.
I don't know if cursing is toxic, because I don't think so.
3. Multiple offenses: Okay, so I was discussing with this guy because he was annoying.
So, other players on the server started to tell to me to shut up, or just say shit to me, and I responded. I don't know
what's wrong with that, but if you see someone discussing with another one, in a leveled up discuss, you shouldn't
say anything because you would get insulted too, right? but anyways, I don't want to play smart, I'm just typing
what's the matter.
Reason why we should remove the punishment: I don't think it's fair because, like I said tacitly, I curse too much and maybe that's for cultural differences. I don't want it to be removed, because I know I probably went too far and lose my head, but instead, lowered. I promise I will watch my temperament and words.
Thank you, Mr.Cocaine.
Last edited by Mr.Cocaine on Fri Dec 02, 2016 7:54 am, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Mute/Gag appeal.
Personally, Mr.Cocaine was on my own little list of people to watch carefully, as he's toxic quite often. He's got a prominent history, and it's only a silence, it's not like he can't play at all. He wasn't ever productive in chat/voice anyways.
http://disc-ff.gameme.com/player_histories/chat/2351059
http://disc-ff.gameme.com/player_histories/chat/2351059
Last edited by notjus on Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.
I go by Get/Here and this is my steam profile.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/notjus/
http://steamcommunity.com/id/notjus/
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Re: Mute/Gag appeal.
Hi.notjus wrote:Personally, Mr.Cocaine was on my own little list of people to watch carefully, as he's toxic quite often. He's got a prominent history, and it's only a silence, it's not like he can't play at all. He wasn't ever productive in chat/voice anyways.
http://disc-ff.gameme.com/player_histories/chat/2351059
I sincerly don't know you, so, you haven't spend too much time in a server with me. Anyways, in the report format, says tacitly that a ban can be biased, so, your reply is biased because instead of debate againts the reasons I provided above, you're typing that I'm on your some kind of black list.
Thank you, Mr. Cocaine.
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Re: Mute/Gag appeal.
I'm Get/Here, and your chatlogs certainly ain't biased. I don't watch people just because I don't like them, but because of their past behaviors. I'm merely stating that I myself had my eye on you because of your toxic behavior that you've shown even when I was in the server.Mr.Cocaine wrote:Hi.
I sincerly don't know you, so, you haven't spend too much time in a server with me. Anyways, in the report format, says tacitly that a ban can be biased, so, your reply is biased because instead of debate againts the reasons I provided above, you're typing that I'm on your some kind of black list.
Thank you, Mr. Cocaine.
Last edited by notjus on Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:56 pm, edited 2 times in total.
I go by Get/Here and this is my steam profile.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/notjus/
http://steamcommunity.com/id/notjus/
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Re: Mute/Gag appeal.
I din't know you were Get/Here. Well, okay then.notjus wrote:I'm Get/Here, and your chatlogs certainly ain't biased. I don't watch people just because I don't like them, but because of their past behaviors. I'm merely stating that I myself had my eye on you because of your toxic behavior that you've shown even when I was in the server.Mr.Cocaine wrote:Hi.
I sincerly don't know you, so, you haven't spend too much time in a server with me. Anyways, in the report format, says tacitly that a ban can be biased, so, your reply is biased because instead of debate againts the reasons I provided above, you're typing that I'm on your some kind of black list.
Thank you, Mr. Cocaine.
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Re: Mute/Gag appeal.
Please do not reply to a dispute unless you're directly involved with it. Personal issues or opinions you may have with someone can be kept to private chat.notjus wrote:Personally, Mr.Cocaine was on my own little list of people to watch carefully, as he's toxic quite often. He's got a prominent history, and it's only a silence, it's not like he can't play at all. He wasn't ever productive in chat/voice anyways.
http://disc-ff.gameme.com/player_histories/chat/2351059
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Re: Mute/Gag appeal.
Kary has given me evidence of screenshots of you using the N word constantly, and being extremely racist towards her and derf, and you have been punished so many times in the past. let me post these screenshots here:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =810417812
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58447C9A
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5844A921
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... oe=5843686
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58439737
If this isnt enough evidence you can check chat history under his name on DISC FF server 1 for the full evidence.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =810417812
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58447C9A
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5844A921
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... oe=5843686
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58439737
If this isnt enough evidence you can check chat history under his name on DISC FF server 1 for the full evidence.
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Re: Mute/Gag appeal.
1. The key word here is constantly... That's not true and anyone can check my bans to verify.AC/DC Freak wrote:Kary has given me evidence of screenshots of you using the N word constantly, and being extremely racist towards her and derf, and you have been punished so many times in the past. let me post these screenshots here:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =810417812
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58447C9A
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=5844A921
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... oe=5843686
https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/ ... e=58439737
2. Like I said, racist apply when you're white and discriminate an hispanic (that's called xenophoby, not racism). And, as I said, I'm latino too, so, there's no race hate. I already explained myself up there, come on, so calling someone from a region is racist? Do you even know what's snobism? Is like saying: You snobist texan.
3. So curse is being toxic? Come on, that's not being toxic, toxic would be if I started to micspam or provocating the hale like the guy I was discussing with yesterday.
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Re: Mute/Gag appeal.
Dude insulting anyone cause they are mexican is completely uncalled for and racist. even if you are also latino, it doesent matter. cursing is fine, but you are just being plain disrespectful. Silence should stay, my opinion.
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Re: Mute/Gag appeal.
I guess you have to re-read what Kary provided.AC/DC Freak wrote:Dude insulting anyone cause they are mexican is completely uncalled for and racist. even if you are also latino, it doesent matter. cursing is fine, but you are just being plain disrespectful. Silence should stay, my opinion.
Shut up you snobist mexican
The subject is you, not mexican. mexican is the complement of the sentence.
So, like you said, I didn't insulted her because she's mexican, instead, forma being snobist. Again, not racist.
I have never targeted anyone, I always try to speak in a gender-neutral por plural way, because that's it: cursing. Except of course yesterday, and he told me "toxic" stuff too. But why I didn't report? Simple, it's just cursing.
Last edited by Mr.Cocaine on Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.