Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby Bryan » Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:41 am

Steam Community Link: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198164412815
Steam ID: STEAM_1:1:102073543
Admin: brad
How long they banned you for: 1 week
Reason why they banned you:: without reason
Reason why you think this ban is unfair/uncalled for/biased, etc.= i was trying to get out of the server, then i tried to enter and i got ban
Reason why we should unban you: I show proofs

first video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqWsHy_0rDE this is a video where i show a bad behavior of brad he kicked one guy without reason and then he left

Second video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjbBvND ... e=youtu.be, the next map after the first video , he ban me when i left the server reason i don´t know.

Pictures http://subefotos.com/ver/?102993b34744e ... 34615o.jpg.
http://subefotos.com/ver/?c0cf22e0098b7 ... ng#codigos

that´s clear that he is abusing with his admins powers

thanks :D
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Re: Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby brad » Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:42 pm

The reason you were banned because you moved your self on to counter terrorist (which will reset the the round on course maps) then immediately left the game, since this is not the first time I've seen/have been messaged about you doing these things when admins arent online,(not to mention the other time this week i caught you trolling on a course map) I feel as if the punishment is fit and should stay.

On a side note please next time upload your demos at normal speed.


Also in refrence to exiting the game using the exit menu choose team Isn't close to exit game: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/f ... =620134202
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Re: Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby Bryan » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:12 pm

*I've seen/have been messaged about you doing these things when admins arent online* if you don´t have proof it not worth,
some guy have been told me that you abuse with your powers admins, I don´t believe it until I have proof, and i show it, you kick apex without reason only because you want. how do you explain it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqWsHy_0rDE (and then you slay all people because you don´t want to play this map)

second hand, i have the first part of the video, that show that im not was moving myselft to counter terrorist. there were two people that did it , and you did nothing, finally if i move myselft i would get something like this
http://subefotos.com/ver/?1001bb2402de6 ... 1472do.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12nUfXj ... e=youtu.be

Note: you are an admin i supossed that you have to get proof before you kick or ban someone.
I hope that fire can see this topic
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Re: Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby brad » Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:32 pm

there were 4 admins on at the time they all witnessed you join ct
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Re: Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby Fire » Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:01 pm

Can you upload the full demo here so I can watch it. The sped up video is hard to follow. Thanks.
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Re: Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby Bryan » Wed Feb 10, 2016 2:15 am

Fire now I uploaded videos this time they are full and normal speed, check on the top


note: brad be serious please -.-. a video has more worth than one million of words, you kick this guy without reason and ban me too.

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*I've seen/have been messaged about you doing these things when admins arent online* if you don´t have proof it not worth,
some guy have been told me that you abuse with your powers admins, I don´t believe it until I have proof, and i show it, you kick apex without reason only because you want. how do you explain it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqWsHy_0rDE (and then you slay all people because you don´t want to play this map)

second hand, i have the first part of the video, that show that im not was moving myselft to counter terrorist. there were two people that did it , and you did nothing, finally if i move myselft i would get something like this
http://subefotos.com/ver/?1001bb2402de6 ... 1472do.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12nUfXj ... e=youtu.be

Note: you are an admin i supossed that you have to get proof before you kick or ban someone.
I hope that fire can see this topic
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Re: Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby Fire » Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:24 pm

I have talked to Brad and we discussed the kicking of the player in the first demo. Kicking someone just because they have a differing opinion isn't something a admin should be doing. People are allowed to voice their opinions and say what they want, the exception to that rule is if a person is being harassed which wasn't the case here.

As for your ban Brad tells me you haven't uploaded the full demo. After the video cuts off is when you switched teams and left the server. I see also in the video that it ends before the demo is complete. Can you please upload the full demo for my review.

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Re: Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby Bryan » Fri Feb 12, 2016 3:38 am

Now I´ve uploaded full demo to clear doubts (although I think that this is the job of admin before he kick or ban someone he has to get proof or imagine if he does not is my word vs his word)

*After the video cuts off is when you switched teams and left the server* to clears this point, I´ve opened console that registers every movement. you can see that it does not said that Bryan join to ct nothing like this (and also you can see when some admins said to apEX that´s respawn it would be admin abuse but brad did it every time.)

*I see also in the video that it ends before the demo is complete* now you can see demo until 5:24 also you can see that i don´t get something like this http://subefotos.com/ver/?1001bb2402de6 ... 1472do.jpg (that is supposed to get when you change team)

Full video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12nUfXj ... e=youtu.be

I think that I´ve shown three important thing about brad

1-) he does not record the game (being an admin i think that is his responsability)
2-) he abused with his admins powers when he kick or ban someone without reason (and again without proof)
3-) he respawn himselft on course maps every time that he dies (when a normal players can´t do it) and he slay all players when he wants it (you can see the case when he slay all players because he does not want to play this map) there were many admins on that they saw his behavior as brad said *witnesses*

Finally, I think that both players and administrators have to receive a punishment when they break the rules

That's all from me
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Re: Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby yourselvs » Sat Feb 13, 2016 4:37 pm

Bryan, while I agree the situation could have been handled differently, there are some things that need to be cleared up. First off, I've never seen Brad respawn himself without also respawning all other dead players during a course map. Second off, at the time you knew and have known that Brad wasn't having the happiest day. A couple maps before he was repeatedly ignored and Brad banned someone who was trying as hard as they could to be annoying. There were several times that map where people had joined CT, either on accident or on purpose, and Brad was getting increasingly annoyed. What you did that he banned you for, whether or not it was your fault, was seen by him as you purposely trying to annoy him or the other admins and he didn't tolerate it anymore.
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Re: Unfair ban brad (Proof)

Postby Bryan » Sat Feb 13, 2016 6:58 pm

yourselvs thanks you for your comment, but when I read your message first of all I realized that every moment you try to justifiy brad´s behavior, personally I think that no matter your mood you have to respect the rules (kick, ban or delay players without reason is break rules) and there is no Doubts about it (proof shows it, being this his responsability also he has not proof about this case is a shame) in the other hand you are so rude with me when you said * whether or not it was your fault,* no matter if it was an accident or on purpose,(althought proof shows that I did not change to ct)

So I think that we have to be impartial to get a nice conclusion.

Note: if you have other doubts you can see the videos and pictures

Thanks.
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